"6 '9 big man DeShawn Painter now lists Maryland and NC State as his finalists. This comes off the heels of Painter's visit to College Park this past weekend where he apparently played pick up at Comcast with some pretty big names. Word is that he really enjoyed the trip and will make a decision shortly after he graduates high school on May 17th."
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
Painter Wasting No Time: Narrows List, Sets Date
DeShawn Painter has wasted no time in narrowing his list and setting his decision date, following his visit to Maryland this past weekend. According Maryland's Testudo Times Painter has eliminated Virginia Tech from his list after they picked up Florida transfer forward Allan Cheney last night. This leaves NC State and Maryland as the final two. He also states that he will be making his decision shorty after his graduation on May 17th. Here is an excerpt from the article:
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Number two is wrong I believe. Check on this but I'm pretty sure the new rule states that you can no longer do this.
We would love to have you as part of the Wolfpack family DeShawn!!
Isn't playing pick up with "some pretty big names" a recruiting violation?
Yes, EVERYTHING is a recruiting violation ::eyeroll::
testudo times is arguing wether to waste a scholarship on this guy? come on Painter, do you really want to play for a school where they are arguing whether you are worthy of a scholarship? join the pack! we would love to have you
Mr. Painter, C'mon Down! You have a bright future with Wolfpack Basketball. Put on the Red and show us what you've got.
I really hope Maryland didnt pull the wool over his eyes and mesmerize him with former players playing some pick up ball. Lord knows state could pull out their strings and get some great players in a pick up game if thats what it take. Hopefully he looks past getting wined & dined and thinks about his future in school and on the hardwood... One would think Playing Time would be a big factor and States wide open as far as big men!! Comon Painter Join our top 20 class and push us into the top 10!!! WHP hows the digging on walls situation coming?
-Pack Leader
Come on down Mr. Painter. We would love to see you in the REAL red and white. Plus, Raleigh in MUCH better than College Park.
I guess Mr. Anon was incorrect about his post stating that Painter would commit to state after his weekend visit to Maryland. I'm not saying his predictions about the wall/painter are going to be incorrect, but up till now I havn't seen anything that proves what he says is true.
The Truth
^hopefully some will learn from that. Don't trust rumors on the internet. Particularly if they're posted by "Anonymous".
Comon guys dont complain about someone posting something anonymously then post something anonymous yourself. Create a name, nickname, something, anything. that way when you are right, you can come back and say see i told you so!!! and it helps keep the convro straight!!
-Pack Leader
This article is misleading. Painter wasted time, and VT found someone else. He didn't narrow it down; however, I do hope he comes here.
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Who did VT get in place of Painter??? One would have to think if he isnt as highly ranked as Painter, VT would have held out to see his decision before giving the 'ship to someone else...
-Pack Leader
VT got a transfer from UF.
Former UF forward Allan Chaney is transferring to VT
He's pretty skilled. Rated a 4* forward.
Keep bashing me I love it!!! You will all be apologizing shortly when Painter/Wall come to NC State
At least create a fake name so we can keep track of you.
Looks like that poster Erik was all over it. He said yesterday morning that DeShawn would wait until after graduation (the 17th) to commit. Now that's a good pull.
Tank04
Zagsblog has Wall down to UK and Miami:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/05/12/sources-john-wall-down-to-two-fordham-releases-a-3rd-player-recruiting-notes/
My feeling is that the news hasn't changed until an announcement is made. The good news is that UNC and Duke don't seem to be options, at least according to the rumor pools.
I hope both show up, but I love the class we have for '09, and the possibilities for '10 which already includes Mr. Harrow.
^ I agree. Nothing I've seen lately gives State a prayer to land Wall. That ship has sailed. Let's MOVE ON already.
Besides, there's plenty of upside to "not having Wall." Primarily, it'll open the door for Brown and Wood to get more playing time. And their development will be key to State's success over the next 4 years. Their in-game experience will really come in handy when Harrow shows up.
Wall may help more next year, but not having Wall will making 2010 the Pack's year to shine.
I agree with Tim. If you bring in John you stunt the growth of Javi and Mays, If we were to land Wall it would most likely be with the promise "You will have the ball in your hands." No moving him to the 2. And even though we have Ryan coming in, I would hope Javi and Ryan could split time at the 1 with no drop off.
Tank04
Clifton is pushing for Miami. Obviously Wall likes the connection with Cal. He is going to UK from what I can tell. Talked to a guy at his high school, said the same thing. Don't know how close they are but thats what he thought.
On Painter now, hopefully he comes our way. I'm sure he had fun playing with former players but one advantage for UM is that they have essentially NO frontcourt for next season. There are a few question marks with one player who could be academically ineligible and I believe another player transfered, etc etc. So there is much more playing time at UM. But I still think Painter gelled better with our players. Time will tell.
Fine I can do that just to prove to you guys that you will have to apologize to me when the smoke clears and all of these false reports stop leaking about Wall and everything and also with Painter.
Wall/Painter= N.C. State Wolfpack
Please get your apology letters ready and just save them so you can copy and paste when the news is revealed.
If you turn out to be right about the whole Wall/Painter situation then I would have no problem apologizing to you. But, if you are wrong then you should owe us all an apology..kk?
The Truth
What's up with Roscoe Davis? I mean does he have the swine flu? Is it grades again? Why has no one offered him?
Tank04
^Grades.
AGAIN!?! My coach used to say 80% of life is showing up. Clearly that kid doesn't like to show up.
Tank04
To: The anonymous making the claims.
You've already been wrong on several occasions. You made some statement about them both commiting in 48 to 72 hours. That was sometime last week. Even if Wall and Painter chose here, its obvious that you just got lucky. Please go away.
I just spoke with someone inside and he informed me that the ticket wall receieve may hurt any school in the state of NC. evidently this hurt walls feelings that the raleigh police would "attack" him as i was told so this may be why we havnt heard much in the way of state, duke, or unc (not that they ever had a shot!!). I hope this is wrong but it sure makes sence...
<- the Anon Great one,
im not sure why we should opologize im pretty sure we all are rooting for the same team. But with that said, Ill be the first to take you to dinner if your prediction comes true for both Painter and wall...
As for Wall hurting Javi and Mays I disagree. They would be comepeting against not only eachother in practice every day, but against the top PG available so this in turn will only help improve eachother. I understand the idea it hurts the other fresh guards (brown, Wood) but both of them play diff postions. Brown will be our SG where wood is told to be ready to compete for the SF which is a big plus to have a SF with his range and handles.... bringing in more talen and competition has NEVER hurt a team
-Pack Leader
who is Roscoe Davis?
-Pack Leader
"bringing in more talen and competition has NEVER hurt a team"
Ask the Detriot Pistons if that's true. Ask The Dallas Cowboys if that's true. Ask the LA Galaxy if that's true.
True...Javi and Mays would get to go against Wall IN PRACTICE, but he would take away GAME experience that is so valuable. Javi grew up before our eyes this year at Carolina, there aren't enough scrimmages in a season that can offer that experience. You can't simulate the Cameron Crazies in practice.
Rosoe is a 7 foot Juco kid we were targeting.
Tank04
"Keep bashing me I love it!!! You will all be apologizing shortly when Painter/Wall come to NC State"
I will gladly apologize to you if we get those two -- I have no problem with that!!!
But I think nobody on here knows anything. I think the "anonymous" dude that says they're both coming to State is just yanking our chains.
I do think we have a good shot at Painter. Why would anyone choose Maryland over NC State??? College Park is practically a slum!
We may get Painter, but our coaches really don't think we are getting Wall. Take that for what it's worth, but that is how they feel.
"Ask the Detriot Pistons if that's true. Ask The Dallas Cowboys if that's true. Ask the LA Galaxy if that's true. "
First off- I dont consider John Wall to be the same as or even close to T.O. or packman Jones. Nor do i see him being an Iverson who shoots 30 times a game. so those 2 examples are out. Ask the Celtics how bringing in top talent hurt their team. Ask Unc how bringing several McDonalds plaeyers hurt their team. Each situation is different but to say that big time players and big time talent hurts a team is bogus. lastly i understand some fans want loyalty towards javi because he has improved, and i agree he has, but to take a phrase from good ole TOB, "The BEST players will EARN their job on the field." Bring in the best talent you can find then let them battle it out....
-Pack Leader
^^^Rosoe is a 7 foot Juco kid we were targeting.
JUCO??? He's jumped around, but he's still in HS, I think. He's got grade problems, and others. The quote about showing up fits him to a "T".
Yeah I don't think your grades really matter if you're JUCO, and certainly the college boards aren't a factor.
I am not really worried about the whole Wall situation because I believe we have done a great job with our recruiting even if we don't get him! but, WPH - can you confirm anything about Wall narrowing his list to 2?
http://www.highschoolot.com/content/blogpost/5133003/
Thanks! Just didn't know if you had heard anything!
yea Roscoe is not a JUCO, he has been in about 6 different high schools. No way he would even sniff the ACC due to academics.
Roscoe was supposed to go to West Virginia last year, grades kept him off campus and he has been at a few prep schools and juco's sense. I don't know how grades affect him this year, wolfpackhoops will have to clue me in on that.
Pack Leader,
You are warping my argument my man. I never said John was a TO...I never even said he was a bad kid. You said bringing in a talented person has "never" hurt a team. I simply gave you some situations where it did. And you in turn offer situations where top talent helps a team, of course there are many situations where talent helps teams. My point was, and stil is, John Wall would certainly help us next year...but I don't know if he would help us long term.
For those that dont think taking a one and done kid like Wall or Hickson will help in the long term better take a step back and look at the big picture. Who thinks we land Howell, or Lorenzo without landing JJ. Landing Wall would be huge short term and long term. You don't think that if Wall came here and succeeded and helped the Pack win games that it would not go a long way towards landing Leslie and Daniels. People really need to think about it from a big picture standpoint.
^^^That post was mine. I know he didn't go to "XXX Junior College". But he was with the class of '08 and failed to qualify for WVU. So the next School he went to...or in Roscoe's case gang of schools act as his Prep school or Junior college. Please correct me if I'm wrong wolfpackhoops.
I also just read an old article on him that said Bob Huggins suspected that he may have to go through two years of prep before he was eligible. Yikes!
Tank04
The Wall rumor is false
Clifton told SportsIllustrated.com that Wall is down to Duke, Kentucky, and Miami.
^ good find. I just read the article and it says...clifton said it was "accurate" to assume Wall was deciding between Duke, Miami and Kentucky. Also am hearing Wall might now trim his list and will just simply make a decision.
We will not be posting any more John Wall "list trimming" or rumor stories until he makes a decision. I'm just sick of writing them.
aw i like the wall articles : (
^ haha well while they do get us a lot of attention we feel like it's really getting out of control and every article has a new list.
We'll wait until it comes from John Wall's mouth.
Something I found really weird in that article is that Clifton seemed to say that part of why Miami is in it is because of the city itself. So he's encouraging this kid to go and basically be a celebrity in a city known for partying because it would be fun. That just doesn't sound like good advice to me. I remember when Noah got in trouble down there for drinking and marijuana. If he can handle that, more power to him. I just hope that, if that is his choice, he doesn't end up making a poor decision that effects his life for a long time.
A few notes from the Harnett County WolfPack Club Dinner, Larry Harris and Pete Strickland were there and played in the golf tournament. Strickland spoke briefly about our team and recruiting class. He said that our team next season will be extremely athletic and will play with a lot of energy. He said we took baby steps this past season and next year we will take a big step! Johnny Thomas is finally 100% and they expect big things from him next season. C.J. Williams and Julius Mays are going to make big leaps from freshman year to sophmore year. As far as our recruiting class goes, he said we have five talented players right now and are looking to add one more. Harris spoke mostly about how much he loves coming to the Harnett County WPC Tournament every year. Not going to mention names, but private conversations with the coaches and some of the WPC representatives, indicated Wall will not be coming to State and they expect he will go to Kentucky. They did confirm Painter is down to us and Maryland. If you have any questions let me know and I will try to answer them to the best of my knowledge.
^Thanks WolfCamel!
Forgot to mention the funniest thing about the dinner. Coach Harris won two items from the raffle, a Sidney Lowe autographed picture and basketball. Everyone got a good laugh from that! Coach Harris gave the photo to one of my friends and gave the ball to a little girl.
good stuff camel!!!
-sf59
How do they feel about painter? I'm kinda worried about Maryland.
May 13th, "Painter wasting no time:
Yes !!!!
We shall see, but it appears based on WolfCamels comments that Wall is a no go, Which means the "Great Anon" is incorrect as well. Lets just close Painter and move on. Making the NCAA is our goal next year.
Great informative blog. You have been a daily stop on my Wolfpack blog tour daily for a couple months now. Just wanted to let you know Wolfpack fans appreciate the hard work you do to keep us in the loop.
Dave Telep said,
"NC State with the slight edge right now. He's coming off the Maryland visit. This one ends by Friday.'
I think we have to feel very good at this point about painter. Its been 3 days since his maryland trip and one would think the "high" has worn off since visiting Maryland. Great inside scoop wolfcamel thats great to hear postive improvement with the young returners we will so desperatly depend on next year. I am really expecting big things out of Johnny Thomas next year ESPECIALLY if he is 100%. I saw him play before his injury in HS and thought he was a huge sleeper with his athletic ablitity. He really reminds me of Gerald Henderson and if he adds a solid jumper he could be the suprise of the year! Any idea how we are doing with the '10 class other than harrow?? I see Roy is pushing hard for Cothron we still a major contender?
Heres a fun idea.. Who do guys think will be the suprise/breakout player next year for us...
-Pack Leader
I'm not giving up on Wall just yet. I'm not saying anyone's sources are wrong, but how do we know Wall won't change his mind? I mean, he has taken THIS long, who's to say where he will end up. Until we hear it from him directly, no one really knows. His mom could end up changing his mind and keeping him close to home. You just never know.
Having said all that, if Wall comes, he comes. If he doesn't, it will sting a little, but it won't be the worst thing that ever happened to us. With our current recruiting class, we will be just fine. Especially when Harrow arrives in 2010. And who knows, maybe we'll get another guy (in Wall's place) that will be here all four years.
And if we get Painter, maybe that will influence Wall, too. He surely wants to be surrounded by some offensive weapons that he can feed the ball. Maybe a Painter commitment would push Wall toward us, considering his mom wants him to stay close to home.
Hey Anon, what say you about Wall now? Still think he's coming? Just curious.
"How do they feel about painter? I'm kinda worried about Maryland."
They really didn't say, but my guess is that we get him.
Sorry about the delay in articles everyone! We've been really busy but I think you'll like what we have in store.
Check back in about 30 minutes for a pretty cool interview we had the chance to get. From a guy that I'm sure you'll want to hear from.
WPH DONT TEASE ME!!!!! I KNOW UR DIGGING UP SOMETHING GOOOOOD!!! I SMELL A COMMIT COMING SOON!!
-Pack Leader
On the front page of Maryland Rivals site they are saying that Painter will announce tonight.
Any confirmation on that WPH????
Keep up the good work.
you are killin me :)
-sf59
is Painter definitely 09?
Looks like that interview is the Josh Powell interview. Nice tease.
"On the front page of Maryland Rivals site they are saying that Painter will announce tonight."
That doesnt sound good that maryland knows when he will announce before state does....
-Pack leader
We're coving the Painter situation pretty close and will let you know when something breaks. I'd check back here quite a bit in the next 10 hours, just in case something were to break ; )
(ps. At this point nobody knows what he is going to do, but I think that'll change in the coming hours...stay tuned)
But yeah, it was the Josh Powell interview I was speaking of. Great guy and him talking to us in the middle of a playoff run was nice of him.
Painter to commit tonight, WPH do you guys have any inside info?
So 0 for 2 with Wall and Painter?
Ohhh WPH your silence is killing me. I know you have some info but my guess is ya'll wont take away from the young mans announcement. im starting to sweat this one out....
FWIW, the Wolfpacker is stating that Painter will make his decision on May 18th.
- Ed
FWIW there's a poster on PP saying that Painter will choose NC State tonight... Hope it's true, would love to have him.
Im not sure if rivals has finished its new rankings for the 2010 season but right now for their top 150 players Ryan Harrow has moved up to the #25 player IN THE NATION and is now a 5 STAR!!!! OHHHH YEAHHHH MCDONALDS ALLAMERICAN I THINK SO!!!!!!
-Pack Leader
Ok guys here is what we have. I have a good Maryland source (the one that updated us on Painter's visit) that has confirmed that there will be a decision made before the 18th and POSSIBLY by tonight.
^We'll keep on it.
Just to clarify... if we land Painter, do we have enough scholly's to give one to Wall?
Nice scoop on Harrow Anon... Sid's recruiting has been impressive so far in this short tenure.
Thanks WPH!
Did they think he was going to Maryland?
^Keep up the good work WPH... I know I speak for everyone here when I say we really appreciate it!
Well hurry the hell up,we don't have all day. ;-)
Are these Rivals stats correct? Is Ryan Harrow a 5-star already? WPH, back this up, please!
Also, I also feel that it isn't a great sign that UMD sources know that Painter is POSSIBLY committing tonight before Raleigh Sources.
Any WPH comments would be appreciated. Thanks. Go State!
I guess it is a pretty short line for congratulations to Great Anon. Hang in there my main. We have all spouted off to be wrong. Brown/Mays/Javi/Farnold can get the ball up court. Next year, we will be very athletic and, hopefully, fun to watch.
Nice scoop Pack Leader! We'll have it up on the front page shortly.
I'd feel better if your source was an NC State source.
Usually recruits call the team they aren't committing to first...then call the other coach to say yes, so that the Coach of the other school doesn't find out last. I'm just sayin'...
^
He's got some people close to him that are on our side. Lets hope thats the deciding factor.
Also I confirmed with an NC State source that decision is supposed to come tonight.
Does NCSU know the decision, do you know?
Get your brushes and rollers ready, I think we will be PAINTing tonight!
Seniors in 2010:
C T. Smith
PG J. Gonzalez
Juniors in 2010:
PG J. Mays
SG C.J. Williams
SF J. Thomas
Sophomores in 2010:
SG S. Wood
SG/SF L. Brown
SF J. Davis
PF R. Howell
PF D. Painter (possible)
C J. Vandenberg
Freshmen in 2010: (possible)
PG R. Harrow (committed)
PF L. Cuthron
PF/C C.J. Leslie
Does this picture look close to accurate to you, WPH? Also, if you have time, would you list any other 2010 targets? Thank you. And WOW. Even if Harrow stands alone in the 2010 class (which will never happen) that team will be awesome! I'm proud of Sid, man. He is going to be able to institute a true 'up and down' 'inside out' kind of style starting next year. I'm ready! I'm ready. Go State!
WPH -
Is this a record for number of comments?
We are up to 92
Can we get to 100????
Ppack,
Looks good. 2010 is the only question. How will the roster shake out? How many ships available? And those questions won't be answered until after this coming season.
2010 Targets- Every site has their "list" but I think you can trim those down a lot. We are only showing "serious" interest in a few guys. I think the real 2010 targets as of now are:
Cothron, Leslie, Parker, Barton
Now I'm hearing Barton to Kentucky is going to happen unless Larry Harris works some serious magic.
Cothron likes us and really likes Sid. So we'll keep hard after him.
Parker is a new name but is VERY interested in playing here, thanks in part to his new buddy Ryan Harrow.
And leslie is the wild card
Thank you for the insight, WPH's!
WPH,
Do you have any info on Emanuel Chapman, a local PG from Enloe I think? He was mentioned on another site as a talent and someone interested in State. To your knowledge are we looking at him at all as someone to backup Harrow for the next few years? Scholarship or prefered walkon offer?
I keep checking in for the news!
It would be interesting to see a statistic on what percent of major recruits who are undecided late in the game choose the last school they visited.
While we're all waiting, an Archie Miller tidbit;
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/fromcomments/292767.php
Chapman may get a call but I haven't heard anything about him getting serious interest from us.
With Harrow already committed I dont think signing another point guard would be the priority. We have limited ships and some bigger needs than at the guard position.
Rivals saying Painter committed to NCSU
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