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58 Responses to "C.J. Leslie Throws Down At The Elite 80"shame it appears he is off our list
Wow. He is just a freak of an athlete. Great length and handle too.
FYI - it has been confirmed that he will be attending midnight madness at Kentucky.
Anon -
Who said we are off his list??
NC State is not off his list and he is not off NC State's list. Just talked with someone close to Leslie last night and he said State is very much in the mix.
He said so! His top picks are UK,The Holes,Maryland,U Conn,Florida UK,Holes his top 2
He just may have a very long list
Well that said I am very close to him.{by blood} And CJ would never say never or slight anyone ,truth be told State is still on his list in the middle of said list.
His top 5 are what was posted here ,with UKand UNC his top picks.
I for one if I had a pick I would love to see the boy play here,but in his shoes all the other programs are not only more stable but also well run
Anon -
You are going off of OLD information. He said in an article in the N&O yesterday that UNC is NOT recruiting him (b/c he didn't commit on the spot like Roy wanted). So, you saying the UNC is in his top two is not true. He said in this article that he is wide open and hasn't even thought about trimming his list yet.
Well that is your heart speaking dude,like I stated I am blood and he does not like to appear he is slighting anyone and if you remember he pulled out of going to state already sorry but true
WPH, any info on Andrew Wiggins? Somebody on Scout's national board is talking him up and posted a hoopmixtape link that I didn't open. supposedly he was in Wilson with our guys.
Great video, glad to see him having fun with Ryan.
"all the other programs are not only more stable but also well run"
Not trying to get negative, but this is only Calipari's 1st year. And it's Calipari.
Enough of that. Hope he goes to State, but like Wall, I'll be watching him wherever he goes. Just please, not UNC!
an anon "blood relation"... doesn't get more solid than that. (wink)
ps. his ball handling skills have surely improved.
-sf59
Anon -
Fine. You are blood. How often to you talk to CJ?
If you have good info than I certainly would like to know about it. Not getting my hopes up, I am just going by what I hear and read.
Andrew WIggins is was in Wilson and is pretty legit. The only thing is, he's 13 years old. We'll at least wait until high school to start tracking these guys. I haven't heard anything about NC State talking to or mentioning WIggins...but again he's 13.
I was up at Upper Room last night to check out a Rodney Purvis (2013) workout. Now he has talked with the State coaches already (in a very informal type fashion) but they are certainly tracking him. He is going to be a good one. Very humble, hard working kid. We'll have video and an interview up at some point during the season.
Ok sorry, back to CJ Leslie.
Anon,
If you were really "close" with CJ why would you be putting his info out there like this since he himself doesn't event want to yet. While being a 3rd cousin once removed does relate you to him it doesn't mean that what you heard from your crazy aunt at last years family reunion is the final/current truth.
Nothing personal, but I won't be following Wall at UK. Any player who goes to play for Calimari loses immediate credibility with me. Same for CJL if that's where he ends up. A stable, well-run program? at UK?
Anon,
So you are blood kin to CJ? What if I told you I spoke to CJ last night and he told me that State is very much in the Top 3 schools that he is considering? What if I told you that he told me that UNC was not recruiting him anymore? Would you believe me?
I am CJL. I am going to UNC-Asheville. That is all.
Respectfully yours,
Not Tank04
Like I said in an earlier post, I spoke to someone Saturday at the event and they told me not to worry CJ is coming. It was someone who I believe is pretty good friends with CJ.
Personally, I have a feeling he will be commiting to Kentucky this weekend.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
^ Good one.
Not Anon
I am CJL. I was so impressed with the facilities I saw at the tournament this past weekend I have decided to sign with Barton College. Relax State Fans!!
Respectfully,
Not Pack Leader
The trolling is getting silly.
CJ, don't be the type that follows the crowd and has to have a bunch of other people around before making a decision.
Do it man!!!Strike out on own, and with the help of some very talented teammates, be REMEMBERED as someone who lifted NC STATE back up unto it's rightful place!!!
Either that, or go to one of the places where in just a few years, they'll be saying stuff like, "Oh yeah, I think I know who you're talking about, he was good, but what was his name again?"
Don't be just another face in the crowd, NC STATE will remember CJ LESLIE!!!
Why do you guys try to question everything someone says ?
It's a message board. It might be true and it might not. Personally, I can easily see where CJ might have UK and UNC at the top of his list, even though I'm hoping he warms back up to NC State.
Don't kid yourself..UNC has a strong "pull" for any young basketball player and so does Kentucky.
NC State has fortunately gotten into a situation that could be very attractive to CJ so I'm thinking that maybe State has a shot.
The last thing I would do is tick off somebody who might be a family member or blood relative of any kind.
One of the things working in State's favor is the proximity of family not only when he's playing here but also if he comes back to get his degree...he's certainly going to go to the NBA after a year or two.
Let's relax....we got a shot at CJ and about two weeks ago I would have thought we had no shot.
Things change. UNC may not offer and Kentucky does not have the hometown/family angle. There's a chance that he likes the guys that will be at State in addition to the coaches.
wherever he ends up (Go to State CJL!), he's gonna be a monster SF, maybe they'll make a new position, MF (monster forward). Shooting, rebouding, shot blocking, ball-handling, passing, looks like he does it all.
Well sorry to add what I know here ..............so if you wish to attack what I said it is fine I unlike most anons here have to keep my idenity away from CJ not that he comes on here but if word got out............anyway enjoy yourselves ............I am out
Hey man... I am not doubting you...just hoping that the last few weeks have made a little bit of difference in CJ's thinking. I DO think we are in better shape than two weeks ago, even if we are not on top.
Anon, you have to understand where some of the folks are coming from after some of the comments that have been made by previous anonymous posters up here.
Feel free to browse this site any time and post a comment if you want and if the people believe you fine if not oh well.
Why would "anon" get his feelings hurt?
You do realize that you came on a website that is called WOLFPACK Hoops and basically claim that the NC State WOLFPACK have no chance of landing CJ. You do realize that most people that visit this site are fans of WOLFPACK basketball, right? And you do realize that you posted all of this anonymously, right?
Did you expect us to say "cool, thanks for the insight" "good info there" "thanks for chiming in"
Anon,
Cool, thanks for the insight. We appreciate the good info. Thanks for chiming in.
Hey guys..assuming he's correct for the moment...I still think CJ may think more highly of State after this past week-end when he certainly had to enjoy being with and playing with Ryan Harrow.
We may not get him, but we have a better chance than we did.
Hey..maybe that guy will come back on and say "CJ has changed his mind about State...he likes them now". Stranger things have happened. Never give up hope.
I think we have our best recruiter going after him now.
wow - amazing! he's a 'one and done' - not sure a OAD is good for our program, although with a great point guard around, it might make a difference.
Man the kid gaurding Harrow @ 1:15 does not relize he has past the ball until it is in Cj hands on the way to the rim. CJ I see a lot of highlight reels if you happen to choose STATE .
There's no doubt the kid has crazy skills but selecting a college is a huge decision. I think CJ needs to take his time a see how this season turns out. No doubt Kentucky is a great university with a very bright future but there's room for 5 on the court at a time, how many players lost scholorships this season because calapari had a different agenda. they have a pg named bledsoe that will see limited minutes this season but could have been a starter almost anywhere in the country but he's a small part of a big team now. I still beleive quinton thomas could have been a lottery pic if he would have went somewhere that really needed a pg. Ask the wear brothers how smart their decision was in a couple of months, they won't be the first one's to go back to cali after spending a year on a UNC bench. Don't cheat yourself or your future big time programs are nice and so our national championships but when it comes down to it it's all about you and your future. QT has a championship ring but had he attended ASU or CAL he would probably be cashing NBA checks. I really believe CJ could be a one and done if that one is a smart one.
OK CJ, will you do what everyone is telling you to do, and will you be another face in the crowd who decides to walk down the well worn path to "XYZ Universittee", like everyone else does??? Or will you make a name for yourself by going a different route, committing to a university that gives you an opportunity TO COMPETE A-G-A-I-N-S-T, and ANNIHILATE, all of those kids who who didn't have the nads to chose their own path!!!
If you're concerned about stability, then be one of the ones who helps bring it back to NC State. C'mon CJ, sign to play BB where you originally intended to go, you know you made the right choice the first time around. Come to NC State and make a name for yourself by setting ACC on it's ear first, and then going after the rest of the NCAA's field of 65 as well!!!
Believe me, you'll have plenty of time to take on the rest of the planet after that.
Cal will have UK in trouble just like at UMASS and Memphis
more stable? not hardly!
seems to me that CJ is in the process of gaining confidence in his ability. when he first committed we were his only offer. he may have thought we would be his only offer and jumped on it. once he started getting high praise and more offers, he decided that he was too good to "settle" for State. I hope he comes back, but I'm not counting on it despite all the talent we're bringing in during the next two years.
I had to be the guy who live in reality but cj lesile won't be comming here. The numbers show that after a kid decomits he goes else where. Now back to this player development thing. I believe some role players have gotten better from time to time but I honestly think todd fuller may have been the last guy who came in and year after year his stats showed he got better. Truthfully its not about that. Its all about winning. It takes something special this day in time to win and win all the time. These kids want to go be a part of tradition and I am glad sidney is selling it. To be bad we don't have like a hall of fame for our basketball players. Replica banners are good but not enough. They need to see the history up close and touch it. They need to get excited and want big things and be willing to pay the price. Champions are always willing to put in the work and not mail it in. All the late game losses where we would have alead and blow it. I mean how many times can you just say well I'll mail it in. Or well they got the lead back its over? As Much as I love the game and the Wolfpack I find it hard. Youth is no excuse for losing. I mean look at any team tat is good year in and out. Even with youth they win go to the tourney and bow out in the elite 8 or sweet sixteen. When does the maddness stop?
I am sorry for the long rants but I want more that 3 more seasons with 8th place or below finish in the ACC
GO WOLFPACK
LoneWolf, Jimmie V did have a "dream room", where players could get a taste of what NC State BB is SUPPOSED to be. But of course, the NCAA said it wasn't quite kosher to have such a thing, and they quickly shut it down without a whimper. Then later of course, unc builds it's own elaborate shrine dedicated entirely to unc BB, with all kinds things that are put in there just to attract young recruits to their program, and at least according to this current governing body that calls itself the NCAA, that's perfectly fine and dandy to do over in chapel hill.
The unc players and coaches can even get together and play an innocent game of BB in the off season too, without worrying one iota about having to forfeit an entire season of play. We shouldn't fret over any of that stuff though, it's just different rules, for different universities. I'm sure that the NCAA doesn't really mean anything by it, they just don't want to let anything disrupt their little statu$ quo.
As far as the Todd Fuller thing goes, some people have brought up the name Anthony Grundy when I've mentioned this subject in the past. I have to give them some credit there. Grundy did improve pretty substantially. I, for one, am really glad he did, because if he hadn't, I'm thinking that there were a few times where the entire rest of the team may have gone completely scoreless without him.
^LW, not to be the blog police, but there's no need for that negativity in here. There's plenty of other sites to go for that. We might get Leslie, we might not. But we've got a lot to look forward to. We're going to be pretty young for the next couple seasons, but we're building a solid foundation of talent. Hopefully we'll see it all come together, hopefully sooner rather than later. (and hopefully Leslie will be big piece of the resurgence.)
^Here, here!!!
Well said!
Hey, what do you say if we make THAT particular "anon", "The Official Anon", and just do away with the rest of them altogether?
c'mon LoneWolf, please don't forget the quote that jimmy v often referenced by carl sandberg, "nothing happens unless first a dream."
if you lose sight of your goals and your dreams, then you've already lost. nothing is impossible. stay positive my friend, peace be upon you.
Harrow will help us out a lot with Leslie. If we are getting Leslie, then Harrow will be the guy to pull him back to NC State. That being said I wish we had offered Parker. I think he would have committed and we wouldn't have to worry about Leslie. We need an athletic/explosive wing player next year to finish what will be an outstanding class. There isn't one on our roster right now.
Parkers skill set is NOWHERE near CJL. Dont get me wrong I was a big supporter of Parker but he was going to need time to develop in the ACC, unlike CJL who has the athleticism to compete right now. Parker, although athletic, doesnt have the refined skills needed (ie dribbling, shooting, rebounding) to be a top competitor right away. Dont get me wrong I fully believe he will be a force after a year or two of being in the system. If you want to BE the best, go after THE BEST players. CJ could start at SF on ANY team in the nation day 1.
I think the reason our staff didn't offer Parker was the lack of consisistency and effort he was showing in AAU. Sidney recruits players that come to play. He was saddled with too many inconsistent unmotivated guys from Sendeks teams. It wii be interesting too see how Parker reacts when we play MD though. Should be an intense matchup.
What is this guy talking bout?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/12262983
Too bad we can't start scheduling ASU
I'd love to see Sid face off against Herb especially once we have Lo,Ryan,Luke, and CJ !
That's an old trolling story, and the writer has a faux mohawk.
First, whoever said that the stats are stacked against any school landing a de-commit, is correct. I think the numbers look like '97 to 3.' But, to quote Jim Carey, "So you're saying there's a chance?!"
Everyone on here is making valid points about CJ. He could stand out in Raleigh. His family likes Sid and they like NCSU...for now. My concern is that, just like with John Wall, the speculation and banter around his recruitment can drive him away from Raleigh. The hype that comes with having everyone talk about you everyday can make a person long to be a 'face-in-the-crowd.' The spotlight is hot. And if you are not a confident, well-rounded individual, you may not care to be the proverbial 'Big Fish in a Little Pond.'
To the Anon who is related to CJ...thank you for your insight. As I've said to others, I would much rather you share your information than have you troll through, worried about what the other posters may say. Having said that, you do have to expect that people are going to react to negative information, especially from an anonymous poster, about their favorite program. I don't know about anyone else, but I consider every 'anonymous' to be the same voice. If your are going to say that you are related to CJ, you have already let the cat out of the bag. Why not call yourself "XYZ" or "Billy" or anything to distinguish yourself, so that your posts will be a bit more credible. Nobody will know who you are when you post. Even if you don't set up an account, just sign your anonymous post with an alias.
Nobody is out to get you. It's just that there have been some instigators that have come on in the past, simply to stir the pot and raise a stink. That's why you're reading these defensive posts.
If CJ signs on with the Pack, he becomes family, instantly. If he signs with Duke or UNC, he instantly becomes the enemy. Anywhere else he may sign, is somewhere in between. That's how I see it.
I sincerely hope that CJ reconsiders NC State. I think that he would thrive here and Sid would get him ready for the NBA. Sid has the knowledge and the contacts to make him a high draft pick, and train him in what to expect on the next level. Ryan will make him look even better than he is, which is amazing! There will be lots of playing time to go around in Raleigh, as opposed to other places. His family can see him play a lot, and the rest of the country will see him play a lot, too. The new television package that the ACC is signing will be impressive, to say the least. And, the competition will be fierce, the acclaim will be in abundance and the notoriety will flow throughout the media from coast to coast. And, as mentioned before, CJ can help bring the Pack to prominence again, where they belong, or he can suffer the victim's fate of standing in our path. The choice is his.
Go Pack!
I know its nice to dream but reality says dreams don't always happen. I want to win as bad as the next state fan. I am postive in my own right but I wanna see the proof in the pudding before I let myself get all hyped up again about how good we can be. I want to win very badly. I do believe in dreams but you at the same time you have to know your limits and what your capable of. sometimes you brak limits and do great things but its not very often.
I hope these guys are world beaters we havecomming in and they win tons of acc titles and take us far in the tourney.
GO PACK!!!
BTW, I love the faux-hawk reference. Classic. And the Herb story is so very played out, that it is ridiculous. Herb is doing well. Great. It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. I wish him the best. BUT HE WASN'T FIRED!!!!
The pressure got to Herb. The radical fan...got to Herb. A great offer at a smaller school...got to Herb. ASU is a place where Football rules, and the spotlight is only turned towards the hardwoods when the team is doing well. If they struggle, it's no big deal. Expectations are low and the paychecks are high. The stress is low and the student body is high. Okay, that crossed the line a little. But they are a party school, which is why Herb left his bow tie is Raleigh.
Enough about how we 'Nudged' Herb out of Raleigh. We have expectations here. We give coaches AMPLE opportunity to prove themselves. Do we criticize? Hell yes! Does every other program in the country criticize their coaches? Hell yes! So, excuse us for not settling for second best. We have a history of being the best, and we want it back! No offense to Herb! Go State!
I can see him committing to Kentucky, especially if he's really attending their midnight madness scrimmage.
Here's the thing. I don't even care. If he wants to miss the boat, that's up to him. I love the recruits Sid is getting. There are plenty of other big fish, and Sid is already getting some of them.
If CJL wants to come here, great. If not, it won't be the end of the world, either. We'll be fine with or without him.
I do think the longer he takes to commit, the better off our chances are at making a second run at him -- Especially if he doesn't commit at Kentucky during their Midnight Madness scrimmage.
Future headlines...
"WHAT ABOUT THE JOB, AND THE TURN AROUND, AT NC STATE???!!! CJ LESLIE AND RYAN HARROW, AMONG A HOST OF OTHER TALENTED WOLFPACK PLAYERS, ARE REALLY BRINGING NC STATE BACK INTO THE FOREFRONT IN A HURRY!!!"
or
Kentucky wins, Contributors were John Doe, Frank Smith, Sam Jones, and some freshman named Lester, uh, Leslie I meant to say."
Let's just hope CJ doesn't sell his soul to the devil this weekend in Lexington.
ppack3,
"A great offer at a smaller school...got to Herb ..."
What a myopic statement. ASU has the 9th largest enrollment in the country (over 67k) which is over double NCSU's (roughly 33k).
I meant 'Basketball-wise.' Sorry anony.
Article on SLAM with small breakdown of Leslie from showcase.
http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/high-school/2009/10/sweet-carolina/
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